Epcot Forever to debut as interim show before full Reflections of Earth replacement

Nov 17, 2018 in "IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth"

Posted: Saturday November 17, 2018 9:40am ET by WDWMAGIC Staff

Disney has just announced that its new Illuminations replacement show will debut in 2020.

The unnamed new nighttime spectacular will celebrate how Disney music inspires people around the world, and will feature massive floating set pieces, custom-built LED panels, choreographed moving fountains, lights, pyrotechnics and lasers.

Before that new show begins, there will be a limited-time experience, called "Epcot Forever," which will debut in fall 2019 and will feature classic Epcot tunes. 

"Epcot Forever" will begin with a spark of imagination that swells into an epic spectacle of fireworks, music, lighting, lasers, and special effects kites.

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Giss NericMar 10, 2020

Why are y'all so bothered by this show's inconsistency? It always has been a filler show or opening act to the main one. Just let them squeeze out all the remaining juices left til Harmonious premiers in a few months.

brickbuilder711Mar 10, 2020

Yes you hit the nail in the head. The larger shells would be in 2s and 4s instead of 1s and 2s. UOE and WNW feel the cuts the worst. It seems like a sly move, they're cutting where they can get away with it. We need to be vocal in guest satisfaction surveys about this. Now on holidays the full pyro would be used. NYE shows had the correct amount. Wonder if Fourth of July would too.

jrhwdwMar 10, 2020

Is Epcot Forever having more off nights than ROE? I'm not defending EF if there's a growing problem here but shows do have off nights.

HauntedPirateMar 09, 2020

They were working last night, but I’ve also heard other nights they haven’t been.

UNCgolfMar 09, 2020

Yeah, I saw it in person and I was not impressed. The kites were the only thing remotely memorable, and they weren't all working when I saw it -- which I guess is better than now, when apparently none are working!

gerararMar 09, 2020

Typically any videos before November still had the full pyro in the show, and anything after that has the cut pyro. You can easily tell by if the pyro launches are launching all at once, or just a few at a time. For example in the Tapestry of Nations part, all the launch points shot pyro to form a “halo” effect around the lagoon, not its barely anything but two parallel rows of pyro. In the finale, each beat usually has two fireworks going off, now just one. It’s really sad to see the state the show is currently in...

mnelson3Mar 09, 2020

They need to hurry up with Harmonius. Yeah it’s likely going to be HEA music wise.... but at least visually it will be awesome.

HauntedPirateMar 09, 2020

I read people say, “It’s better in person”. It’s not. Fireworks are decent, and the kites are kind of cool. That’s about the best comment you’ll get from me. It is not good, at all. It was apparently made by someone with ADD, because not much lasts longer than 20 seconds before changing. The music evokes zero nostalgia. We all know about the last song.

wdwtoptenMar 09, 2020

That sounds horrible. I feel bad for the guests who might only see the show once and they had to see that mess. Are there videos you can recommend that show the "full pyro" version and the "cut pyro version?" I've seen the show 2 times and I have no idea which version I've seen...

brickbuilder711Mar 09, 2020

I had a friend post an IG story that said "They hit a new low". Shame. Anyhow, on a lighter note I got to film it when most everything was working. Sadly, it was during the "cut pyro" mode where half of the big shells launch. Filming it twice you get to see the real pros and cons of the show. In person it is better than the video. Well that goes for about anything. Everything definitely come out bigger and more immersive. However, if you stand in China or in the France-UK bridge like I did, you get cheated as the WWIII barges are in the same plane and two fireworks appear to be one large firework, ruining the spatial element for some effects. Anyhow, enjoy.

Notes from NeverlandMar 07, 2020

Brutal showing for Epcot Forever tonight. Not a single kite lit up during either segment of the show. Thankfully, the fireworks still went off on the kites, but other than that it was jet skis flying around what looked like ghosts. We heard lots of confused guests around us trying to figure out what they were supposed to be seeing. Very sad to see that fun element completely fail.

MisterPenguinFeb 29, 2020

Indeed. Also, it would be impossible to hear the Candelight Procession while the fireworks are going off. The fireworks is always after the last CP show.

oldwrenFeb 29, 2020

Of course, they could always deviate from what they’ve done in the past, but historically during Festival of the Holidays, fireworks have been at 9:30

ilovetotravel1977Feb 29, 2020

Harmonius question - what time will this show start? EF is currently 9pm? When we visit in December, we are planning on seeing the Candlelight Processional at 8:15pm and hoping it won't start until 9:30.