Disney Keeps Future Options Open For New Disney Vacation Club Property at Bay Lake

MaidMarian10 hours ago

We are Canadian visitors who get discounts off rack rates, but the math still works out in DVC's favour for us. As a large family, we need 2 bedrooms to stay onsite. Normally travel at Spring Break. For home resort (GF), these are the calculations I use: Spring Break 1 week in a 2 bedroom resort view villa: RACK RATE: $15-$20,000 + tax 40% off Rack Rate (latest deal): $10-$15,000 + tax Renting DVC Points: $10 - $12,000 Owning DVC: 350 points x $10 per point (our buy in + annual fees) = $3500 Even when considering huge discounts on rack rate, we still save way more. Getting a 2 bedroom villa at the GF for only a little more than what a moderate studio costs during spring break...

MaidMarian11 hours ago

The vast majority of International guest are not from the UK - they're from Canada. And Canadians do get room discounts, for what it's worth.

Sirwalterraleigh12 hours ago

You explained it. I accept it. 👍🏻

Mr. Sullivan12 hours ago

I don’t really see how me not planning properly enough and waiting too long to make a decision on whether or not I wanted to go thus taking out on a trip I likely could have gotten cheaper had I got my stuff together sooner is a defense of Disney. You asked if anyone had paid rack rate and I said yes because I did, You asked why I did that and I said because I didn’t have another choice because I didn’t. Neither of those answers are anything but answers to your questions, yeah, you sold the need to jump to a whole lot of conclusions. I don’t have a need defend a company who’s payroll I’m not on. If I disagree with something, somebody says, I will happily jump into a discussion with him about it, but that is not me defending Disney, that is me sharing my point of view. Contrary to what some of you believe here I feel no pull responsibility to defend a multi billion dollar corporation. I am here only to share my opinion. My point of view not always being negative does not mean that it is a defensive one. It means that I don’t have a problem with that particular subject.

Sirwalterraleigh12 hours ago

Internally…actually. 15% was the shake out number. I could see 20-25% now But again…the other 70-80% aren’t getting UK travel company packages… And the UK number is a slice of that international number as well. There’s a swarm a few times a year…and then not much of the queens/kings English for long stretches in between.

MaidMarian12 hours ago

Yeah, I know they’re not real treehouses. It just seems like they’ve been scrapped from the plan because they are not constructing them.

MaidMarian13 hours ago

Where are you getting your 10-15% number for International Guests? Most reliable data collectors I’ve seen have said International guests make up 20-30% of WDW guests. For onsite guests it’s higher: 30-40% This year I’m sure it’s lower due to travel boycotts, however.

Sirwalterraleigh21 hours ago

Nah…we good. My frustration is in such widespread and public discounting…the “I paid full price” without context or details seemed like an easy bone thrown in defense of a struggling operation. We don’t have to agree it’s struggling…but it’s how it looks in my opinion. Just that. I did a scan of rooms and the same situation is available for most of the rest of the year…with some pattern exceptions…mostly October… HUGE Johnson keeps saying how “strong” everything is…a couple of vloggers post some chart or “evidence”…then ya show up and it’s shockingly empty. But what do I know? I’m quite sure I’ll go crazy at some point…it could have already happened 😜

nickys22 hours ago

I’m not surprised there are discounts for several resorts for next week. How many people decide to go on vacation at a week’s notice? If you think 10-15% is “not significant” then the %age who can travel in a week is definitely insignificant! However those questions still get asked now. We’ll have to agree to disagree on discounts. Edited by me to remove unnecessary comment. Sorry @Sirwalterraleigh . Everyone has a different way to vacation. At WDW some do no parks trips, some spend as many days offsite as onsite, some buy LLs, some only do half days in the parks. And some pay for deluxe rooms or pay rack rate. Just as many think going to Disney is a colossal waste of money. It’s all good. People are free to make their own choices.

Sirwalterraleigh22 hours ago

That’s a way different thing than “I have to pay full price”… And Sullivan didn’t say that…let me be clear…but it is not a common thing to deal with in 2026. Maybe 2016…but really was not then either. Discounts were still available. Not on Black Friday, however Specific dates on promo release where certain rooms were in limited supply - port Orleans (as in port Orleans…not Dixie) would pop up with the situation you described in forums a lot. So you went to Caribbean to get your “free dining” problem solved. Now that I’m thinking…a lot of what you described is from that era…when they didn’t have round the year “save __%” standing discounts… But those days are gone. They’ve outpriced their market to a large extent. They don’t WANT to offer these discounts…it’s reflective of soft bookings. That’s been standard. They had some pretty significant discounts on CHRSTMAS available last year? Or the one before? That would have been unthinkable in the high demand days of yore. The environment has changed to what it is…there is ZERO danger of 2018 returning on the horizon soon. I hate this Insistence of demand that is not present. Why? The suits say it because it’s in their job description. Makes sense But why us? Parks with empty concourses described as “mobbed”…I just looked for the next week starting today on their website… There are 8 on properties with 7 nights available at a MINIMUM 25% discount off rack…pick a room. There are probably a rot of reasons for that…but it comes back to economics and bad management for quite sometime. Just trying to live in the now…don’t care about trips years ago and how it was then. Wasn’t $65 for crystal palace back then 😎

nickys23 hours ago

I can tell you there are plenty of people who can’t get a discounted rate at the resort and dates they want, even if phoning )or a TA phoning) in the first few days of a deal opening. Touring Plans, the DIS and this forum have people asking things like “Will extra rooms open up on this deal or should I consider switching resorts”.

Sirwalterraleigh1 day ago

I’ll thank you to “do you” There has been zero shortage on discounts since 2022…which is commented on pretty consistently every week around here and not really by me. But that’s what it’s like…HERE. In real time. Well if you went on thanksgiving or Christmas…that makes sense. Which I why I asked. “I pay full price” hasn’t made sense since the Covid travel purge ended. And indeed it did end…some years ago. They haven’t made any progress…it’s been flat at best. And discounts are a plenty…look for them.

Mr. Sullivan1 day ago

@nickys I think explained it better than I could've. Like I said, we waited to book until we were less than a month away from our arrival date. It was holiday season and a preferred room, so I'd imagine there just wasn't any promotional deals left in that category for that time period.

nickys1 day ago

Just stop already. The articles here all have specific dates the deals are for and when you have to book. And crucially there are limited rooms available for those deals. When one resort is booked up for that deal, that’s it. The deals apply to a limited number of bookings. Just because there’s a deal still technically running, doesn’t mean it’s available.