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The affordable housing project is about to go before the Board of County Commissioners.
If you’d like to watch live, here is a YouTube link to the meeting:
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The Board of County Commissioners has voted 4-2 on the Transmittal of Future Land Use Map Amendment to the state for review.
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That whole hearing was a farce. Demminga cut speaking time to 1 min a person because he wanted to move things along when rules are typically 2 minutes. He heard the number of attendees wishing to speak and asked people to consider not speaking. The two commissions that voted no had excellent questions and concerns. Bonilla exposed the crooked relation between Disney and the county and held them to the fire and Demings completely ignored the valid and extreme transportation concerns that will effect both current residents and these supposedly attainable housing residents who will increase problems due to a lack of public transportation. He should be ashamed of how he forced the vote despite resquests for a hold to get the proper info. Hattaway disneys rep basically said it's a complete proposal and he rubber stamped it along with the commissioner of the other district who basically said my district is a dumpster fire so yours should be too. Disgraceful and residents and children are going to suffer from the lack of sufficient roads and schools that will be made worse by this development.
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Developers always win --this should come as no surprise. $$$$$$ Rule
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↩ replying to johnparkhopperDevelopers and elected officials go hand in hand.. Nothing new.
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↩ replying to wdwmagicAnd on the very morning of the meeting, there were 2 traffic accidents within a short time of each other on Avalon. At the intersection at Schofield (multi car) and then further up at Porter.
But, hey, no traffic worries, right?
Oh, and the developer has an F rating from the Better Business Bureau. Several lawsuits from military families regarding the housing they built on bases, problems with black mold, etc.
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↩ replying to sWANNISAXCommissioner Wilson didn't even get to complete her motion to request a delay as he cut her off and immediately moved to approve the plan.
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The expansion of avalon and hadtzog are both listed in the staff report and the traffic study report. And it also claims traffic will be under designed loads for the near future.
Hard to argue ‘but traffic …’ when their actual analysis, not just NIMBY comments, say otherwise
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↩ replying to flynnibusYou have a link to said report? Because as a resident of Waterleigh, I will disagree about the expansion of both Avalon and Hartzog. I've driven Avalon (535) all the way to Colonial and there's no room to expand the road. ESPECIALLY as it passes under 429. I've also read the reports submitted to the Commission which includes traffic studies, environmental impact, etc. To say this is merely a case of NIMBY is frankly insulting to those of us who live there.
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↩ replying to LAKid53It’s literally already 4 lanes under the first 429 overpass heading north and they’re currently widening it to 4 lanes at the 2nd overpass…
If you mean the Turnpike, that has a published plan already as well on the county website (I’ll maybe find it later when I actually post this after work). The space is there for narrow or divided 4 lanes all the way up to Colonial, with the possible exception of the area around Stoney Brook West Country Club and that big landscaping business. It’s so easy to see the space for widening on Google Maps for most major roads if you actually want to see it, and it’s even more obvious (IMO) when driving to notice the space.
It is a case of NIMBYism because I can guarantee you that if the road and other infrastructure concerns were fixed and running at an A LOS 24/7 with school capacity to spare, a lot would find yet more issues with the project. At the community meeting someone asked if there would be buses and when they answered no I heard several people around me say “good, we don’t want those either.” They might get backed into the corner of “home values” and “those people” as the only remaining options, but there’s a not insignificant amount of them. I was both surprised and unsurprised at the 180 in tone between the community meeting and the BCC meeting from those opposing it. Yes, some would say “okay, my concerns are taken care of, make it happen,” but I would put money on it not being a majority.
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↩ replying to flynnibusOne thing I've learned about regularly visiting Florida is if housing or shopping can fit in a spot, they're going to stick it there. Traffic concerns have yet to stop anything major from happening.
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↩ replying to flynnibusHorizons West has a master plan. That acreage in the plan was always marked as to be undeveloped.
There's already a light at Avalon and Hartzog/Waterway Passage...with turn signals and turn lanes. Same at Seidel, YMCA and Porter. The only improvement that would be beneficial is a light at Schofield.
All this was presented to Mayor Demings and commissioners PRIOR to the meeting last Monday. I reviewed the materials.