Big Al's and Westward Ho Disappear from Magic Kingdom Digital Map After Permits Filed for Demolition

Mar 05, 2026 in "Big Al's"

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Posted: Thursday March 5, 2026 11:45am ET by WDWMAGIC Staff

The My Disney Experience digital map has been updated to remove both Big Al's and Westward Ho from the Magic Kingdom layout. Both locations remain open and operating, but their removal from the map suggests closures are coming soon.

The map update follows new Notices of Commencement filed for both locations last month, along with the Churro Wagon Cart. The permits list Buena Vista Construction Company - Disney's in-house construction crew - as the contractor for work at all three Frontierland food locations. Although not confirmed, we believe the permits are for demolition of the kiosks.

Removing the three kiosks would clear additional space for the Cars Land expansion and allow for staging, equipment access, or future pathway realignment once the new land opens to guests.


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lazyboy97oMar 10, 2026

There’s also the Cherry Cola Churro at Astrofizz.

gerararMar 10, 2026

Off the top my head, the two snack stands in the hub and galactic goodies in tomorrowland.

FigmentFan82Mar 10, 2026

Is there a place currently to get churros in Magic Kingdom?

Charlie The Chatbox GhostMar 09, 2026

Yeah, Magic Kingdom’s Frontierland has never been a cohesive, accurate land. Even from day 1, where the only attractions were the Country Bears and the canoes. It’s purely a vibes land, like how Adventureland is “jungle vibes” and Tomorrowland is “sci fi vibes”. There’s no unifying story like Paris’s Frontierland or Hong Kong’s Grizzly Gulch (which are the only Frontierlands to do so)

Charlie The Chatbox GhostMar 09, 2026

If we want to assume that Henry’s father inherited the role after Ursus, then that *could* make the 1950s timeline accurate, or even 1971. Though iirc the lore states that Henry inherited Grizzly Hall directly after Ursus, so I guess Henry’s father wasn’t interested, haha. The new version of Henry seems much more youthful than previous shows (although only the vacation hoedown makes mention of his age, him calling himself “old”) so I wonder what the new timeline is. Ursus is still his grandfather and still died in 1928, and Henry took over, but now they have electric guitars- so I have no clue. Frankly, Ursus’s death year is the wrench in this whole timeline, if it wasn’t directly stated then it would be a lot easier to adjust the timeline to match the era of the costumes/music styles. (Again I think the songs should be viewed as unthethered to the timeline, as the song choices are always picked with the audience in mind and not the shows backstory)

MisterPenguinMar 09, 2026

Yes, that is a point that I keep making every time the temporal cohesiveness of Frontierland is examined. The geographic boundary of "the frontier" kept changing as the continent was 'settled' by the Colonialists and their succeeding generations. Yes, at one time Georgia incorporated that boundary between settled and not-settled. But by the time of Splash Mountain, we're in the post-Civil-War era. Georgia to the Mississippi was no longer 'the frontier.' Let's face it: the word "frontier" barely applied to anything in Frontierland. If your paddleboat is going up and down the Mississippi hauling supplies and goods without danger of attacks from predatory animals or Indians... it ain't the frontier. It's old-timey, but it ain't the unsettled, lawless, wild West, which is what the word "frontier" usually is applied to. If it were originally called "The American Vista," none of these back and forths would be happening.

networkproMar 08, 2026

Its a matter of temporal perspective. Remember that from 1763 until 1802 Georgia extended from the Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River. Paddlewheel steam powered ships were still in use until the early 1900's in Georgia. Everything is relative and nothing exists in a vacuum.

TrainsOfDisneyMar 08, 2026

Sure… it’s not really that important cause 1930’s is fine of course. Steamboats still operated, steam trains still operated, an abandoned gold rush mine town makes sense.

AidenRodriguez731Mar 08, 2026

Yeah technically it could be within the same year but Idk at the same time I would have felt like there would be some kind of acknowledgement in his grandfather if he literally died the same year we see it.

TrainsOfDisneyMar 08, 2026

Technically late 1920’s - but that’s not what I was referring to.

AidenRodriguez731Mar 08, 2026

You can disagree with that but the CBJ has always HAD to be in at minimum the 1930s.

MisterPenguinMar 08, 2026

That's just breaking theme, again. If CBJ is supposed to be in 'frontier times,' then they blew it by choosing songs from the 1950s. If Main Street is supposed to be from early 20th century then they also blew the theming with anachronisms. Some anachronisms you can waive away out of necessity (modern trash cans, e.g.,) or from a suspension of belief (e.g., seeing a Romantic European castle from Main Street and hearing an occasional Disney song). But it still is actually and literally literally an anachronism and a break in the theming. Some breaks are minor, some are downright major atrocities... Like making every single song in an old timey theater picked from the 1950s.

TrainsOfDisneyMar 08, 2026

I disagree with that. That would mean Main Street USA is modern day since the musicians occasionally play songs from modern day Disney movies. The style (ragtime, barbershop, brass band jazz) creates the timeline.

MisterPenguinMar 08, 2026

"Feels old" is not the same as "is old." The point still stands: Because they were singing songs from the 1950's, the time setting of CBJ couldn't be earlier than the 1950s, regardless of "feels." Disney *could have* created new songs that sound like early 20th century old timey times. But they didn't. They chose the anachronism -- if indeed their intent was to make CBJ part of the "Old West." But, in the end, this is a failing of Frontierland's 'theme' in confusing "The South" as "Olden Days of the Western Frontier."

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