Disney Expects Softer Attendance Trend To Continue at Walt Disney World and Disneyland

Aug 07, 2024 in "The Walt Disney Company"

Posted: Wednesday August 7, 2024 9:34am ET by WDWMAGIC Staff

In this morning's investor Q&A session, Disney CEO Bob Iger and CFO Hugh Johnston discussed key issues surrounding the company's theme parks and experiences, including ongoing cost reduction efforts, attendance levels, and expected demand moderation in the coming quarters.


Cost Reductions and Strategic Investments

Disney has been actively pursuing cost reductions to enhance its bottom line while continuing to invest in its parks and experiences. CFO Hugh Johnston highlighted that Disney initially set a cost reduction target of $5.5 billion, which has since been increased to over $7.5 billion. Johnston emphasized the company's commitment to driving productivity and efficiency, stating, "In big companies, my worldview is there's always an opportunity to do more with less, so we're going to continue to go after it aggressively as we can to both deliver the bottom line and to invest back into business with all the great opportunities we have."

Despite these reductions, Disney says it remains committed to making strategic investments in its parks and experiences. Johnston noted that while the company is mindful of cost, it also recognizes the importance of continuing to invest in areas that will drive future growth, particularly in its theme parks and cruise lines.

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Attendance and Revenue Outlook

During the Q&A, Iger and Johnston addressed concerns about attendance at Disney parks, acknowledging a slight decline in the third quarter. However, they were quick to note that the decrease was not drastic and attributed some of the softness to broader economic factors. Johnston explained, "We saw attendance [was] flat in the quarter, and perhaps [it was] up a little bit. We expect to see a flattish revenue number in Q4 coming out of the parks."

Looking ahead, Disney anticipates that this trend of flat or slightly declining attendance may continue for the next few quarters, with revenue expected to remain steady. Johnston mentioned that this is not indicative of a prolonged downturn, but rather a temporary moderation in demand that the company is closely monitoring.

Johnston attributed some of the loss in demand to economic pressures on lower-income consumers and an increase in international travel, which may be diverting potential domestic visitors. He said, "Lower-income consumers [are] feeling a little bit of stress, [and] higher-income consumers [are] traveling internationally a bit more."

Speaking later on CNBC, the Disney CFO said, "In reality, people will tend to hang on to their vacations quite strongly because it's an important piece to the family unit. And as a result, we think this is just going to be a few quarters and we'll be fine coming out of it."

The company is also keeping a close eye on potential impacts from the upcoming Olympic Games, particularly at Disneyland Paris, where a temporary reduction in consumer travel is expected due to the event. However, Iger expressed confidence that these challenges are short-term and that the overall outlook for the parks remains positive, especially as new attractions and cruise ships come online in the coming years.

D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event will take place August 9-11, 2024, where Disney is expected to announce a number of upcoming attractions and experiences for Walt Disney World and Disneyland.

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Ayla1 day ago

It's a ticket promo they were/are? running. I got an email about it a few weeks ago and didn't really read it, so I'm not sure what the applicable dates are.

FigmentFan821 day ago

What free hopper upgrade?

JD801 day ago

That'll be different if a lot of people take the free hopper upgrade.

Sorcerer Mickey1 day ago

This time of year is typically slow. The fam and I make a weekend trip every year for my birthday and we stay at the higher-end hotels because they're much more affordable. AK Lodge, Wilderness Lodge, Contemporary, etc.

Touchdown1 day ago

Hop, MK mornings on party days are fantastic, DHS and Epcot are a little more crowded but not too bad, and worth dealing with so I can watch HEA on a non party night. However, MK mornings of parties can be wonderful with short waits through about 12-1pm.

FigmentFan821 day ago

Curious if anyone can answer this. Are the non MK parks getting slammed on party night days? My upcoming trip I've penciled out Epcot and DHS on party days and just hoping they won't be a mob scene of people avoiding MK for lack of a full day expereince.

Lilofan2 days ago

You picked a decent place to vacation in Mexico. The Puerto Aventuras all inclusive resorts are armed fortresses with Mexican law enforcement patrolling the area 24/7 where you need IDs to get in and out.

Basil of Baker Street2 days ago

Thousands of vacations are cheaper than Disney. Always has been.

Laketravis3 days ago

An all inclusive in Puerto Aventuras but definitely plan on exploring the area. Roundtrip non-stop air for two was $850 but when I booked thru Hyatt it was $2480 for the same flights AND seven nights club level ocean view king at the all inclusive. Way cheaper than WDW.

JoeCamel3 days ago

Make it to Tulum?

Laketravis3 days ago

Good to hear! I actually would have been there right now for a week but cancelled and am going to the Riveria Maya next week instead. Still have a couple of weeks at WDW scheduled for early November so I hope the crowd levels stay low.

wdisney90004 days ago

We looked at DVC as more of an extremely cost effective way to visit, not prepaid vacations or investment. Anyone who buys in thinking it's either of those is wrong. Our contract paid for itself a few years ago and we've visited many times since then and the only cost was our maintenance fees which totals to about a 60-70% discount off our room depending on when we visit. When we buy a second contract and rent out a few points from it, that will cover the cost of annual dues for both of our DVC contracts and that will eliminate our cost of annual dues and the cost of our resort stay will then be pretty much 100% discount. And we've used DVC to stay at BW, WL, AKL, SSR, BLT and BC. You don't have to only stay at your home resort. Another benefit of DVC is being able to purchase the Sorcerer AP which is a good discount and if we decide not to visit, I could easily rent our points and make appx $3k after annual dues expenses were paid. The person who attends a DVC sales pitch and is persuaded to finance a 400 point contract at Riviera would fall on the gullible side IMO.

Chi844 days ago

We didn't stay in our home resort for the first several years we owned DVC. We preferred Kidani until the kids became adults and wanted to be able to walk to Disney Springs for drinks, entertainment, etc. SSR is perfect for us now, although we recently stayed at Riviera. I would like to think most people who buy DVC know about and have factored in the maintenance fees and such. The other things you mention have gone up everywhere, although Disney does leave them in the dust when it comes to price increases. We never added onto our original contract, in large part because we were unsure of how long we would enjoy WDW. So far, everyone still loves our vacations. I don't think we're too financially inept or we wouldn't be taking the entire family of 10 to WDW every couple of years lol.