More tenants announced for the new Town Center at Flamingo Crossings

Dec 14, 2020 in "Flamingo Crossings"

Flamingo Crossings Hotel construction - November 2020

A report in the Orlando Business Journal names new tenants for the upcoming Town Center at Flamingo Crossings - Disney's value retail and lodging development just outside the western edge of Walt Disney World.

Joining Walgreens and Target will be PDQ, Five Guys, Ben & Jerry's, Dunkin', Wendy's, Five Below, Domino's, Ellie Lou's Brews & BBQ, Firehouse Subs, Persimmon Hollow Brewing Co., Pieology Pizzeria, Gyu-Kaku Japanese BBQ and a UPS Store.

Located just off State Road 429 and near to the Western Way entrance to Walt Disney World, Disney rebooted its 10 year old Flamingo Crossing development last year, with an announcement of new plans to bring 29 retail and restaurant buildings across 45 acres, to be developed in three phases.

Five additional value hotels will ultimately be built, including other Marriott and Hilton properties. The first two hotels by Marriott at Flamingo Crossing opened in 2016, and are the only businesses currently operating in Flamingo Crossing.

 

 

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Article Posted: Dec 14, 2020 / 4:45pm ET
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the.dreamfinderDec 17, 2020

@wdwmagic ’s update today notes that a forth hotel, a Homewood Suites, will be ready for whenever.

the.dreamfinderDec 17, 2020

RSoxNo1Dec 17, 2020

I haven't been paying much attention to this. Are there any more hotels under construction? At one point there was supposed to be 7 total, I believe as of tomorrow 3 will be open?

lazyboy97oDec 16, 2020

Regardless of whether Disney is involved or not, Flamingo Crossings is more urban sprawl that is a detriment to the built and natural environments. The development could have been laid out as a pedestrian friendly enclave where residents and visitors can easily walk around to the various tenets. Instead it is laid out as boxes in swaths of asphalt too far apart that will result in people driving to the shopping and dining. Yes, I am aware of Disney’s involvement in Crossroads. It’s a mistake that should have been left in the past.

MrPromeyDec 16, 2020

While I often agree with many of your points as they pertain to the parks and resorts, this is nether a Disney park or Disney resort we're talking about. In fact, it's something that doesn't even have Disney's name associated with it in a way that the vast majority of the public will ever be aware of. That said, clearly, you and I are never going to see eye-to-eye on this. I can distinguish Disney the brand from Disney the publicly traded company. It appears that either you cannot or chose not to. Disney the company is a business and needs to get business done. To me, that is not an excuse to tarnish the Disney brand in the name of making a quick buck the way they do with increasing resort prices and cutbacks in quality across "property" but in terms of "outside" development, you do realize that Disney originally built and owned that shopping center (Crossroads) directly across the street from the Hotel Blvd entrance to WDW over thirty years ago, right? What Disney's doing here isn't exactly new for the company and in comparison to that project, this seems both nicer and far less attached to Disney than that ever was. There is a lot to be said about the slide in management focus and how it pertains to certain aspects of the company*. This, I do not believe, is one of them. *particularly, the resorts the own or have a majority ownership stake in, particularly in the US, particularly east of the Mississippi

Master YodaDec 16, 2020

Residential construction in Florida is something that I can speak to great lengths on. Your standard interior wall thickness for residential construction will be a 2x4 (3.5") This is true for a $120k tract home as well as a multimillion-dollar mansion. Sure, there are exceptions, but they are rare. "I can hear sound through the wall because they are so thin" is one of those statements that makes my brain itch. Wall thickness has little to do with the sound transfer. What makes the difference is insulation and assembly. The STC rating of an uninsulated (nearly all interior walls have no insulation) 2x4 and 2x6 wood-framed wall are nearly identical. To lessen sound transfer through walls, insulation, or sound deadening material needs to be added. A 2x8 wall of course has more room for insulation than a 2x4, but remove that key component for either, and sound will easily travel through that wall. This however is only one of a myriad of factors when it comes to how sound travels through a house. For instance, the sound will travel a whole lot more in a house when it hits $30 a square foot natural stone floors vs $1 per square for carpet. That being said, the quality construction for the houses in Golden Oak is going to vary wildly from house to house. While all must meet Florida building code as @lazyboy97o pointed out, this has more to do with safety vs quality. I have seen numerous "luxury" builders that don't give any more thought to the quality of construction than a builder that puts up 2000 3/2 tract style houses a year. The term "McMansion" that is used to describe the construction in many of these luxury communities is often well deserved.

SpoiledBlueMilkDec 16, 2020

Not if it's just a basic urban development to capture revenue. Why spend more on something that won't carry the Disney brand?

jaklgreenDec 16, 2020

That is why we always build our houses and never buy pre-built.

lazyboy97oDec 16, 2020

Aside from how much you can hear, you can see the thickness of walls at openings. The building code is a minimum requirement focused on safety, not a standard of quality.

the.dreamfinderDec 16, 2020

They could very clearly hear a conversation happening a couple rooms away.

jaklgreenDec 16, 2020

How could your friend tell the thickness of the walls of a house? I can't imagine that they are not built to code. Of course you can buy a house cheaper somewhere else. Did anyone think otherwise?

the.dreamfinderDec 16, 2020

It bears repeating that the OG Flamingo Crossings was developed alongside Golden Oak as part of an effort to maximize the short term revenue coming out of the Florida property. Same purpose, very different price points. As an addendum, a friend toured a Golden Oak home and complained of the quality of construction. They particularly noted how thin the walls were and how the home was a gussied up version of what you could pay much less for in nice parts of central FL.