Disney Gains Extension for Cars-Themed Land Permit Review Until January 2025

By WDWMAGIC Staff · Monday December 9, 2024 9:25am ET · "Piston Peak"
Disney Gains Extension for Cars-Themed Land Permit Review Until January 2025

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Cars Concept Art

The South Florida Water Management District (SFWMD) has approved Disney's request for an extension to submit additional information regarding the permit application for the new Cars-themed area at Magic Kingdom. The new deadline for Disney to provide the requested revisions and clarifications is January 9, 2025.

This extension comes after the SFWMD returned Disney's initial permit application in September 2024, citing the need for further details about the proposed modifications to the stormwater management system behind Tom Sawyer Island and Big Thunder Mountain. The permit is critical for ensuring proper water flow and environmental protection during the redevelopment of the area into a Cars-themed land.

The SFWMD granted the extension following Disney's request for more time to address questions about wetland impacts, stormwater management, and mitigation measures for local wildlife.

The additional information Disney must submit includes:

  • Detailed maps of current wetland conditions and impacted areas.
  • Clarifications on mitigation plans for wetland disturbances.
  • Plans to minimize environmental effects on listed wildlife species.

Disney is expected to use the additional time to finalize these details and ensure the application aligns with state and local environmental regulations.

Cars Project Background

 

 

At Horizons: Disney Experiences Showcase at D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event, Disney Experiences Chairman Josh D'Amaro, with the help of Tow Mater via video call, announced that a new area inspired by the Pixar Animation Studios film "Cars" will be coming to a reimagined section of Frontierland at Magic Kingdom. "The American West has always been about keeping your eyes on the horizon … believing in yourself, carving your own path, and striving toward success. That goes for miners in the mountains, bears from the country, a princess from the bayou … or a racecar from the big city," Josh told the crowd.

In this Cars adventure, guests will be able to experience two new "Cars"-themed attractions. One attraction will invite you on a thrilling rally race through the mountains. Take on wild terrain as you race across the landscape climbing mountain trails, dodging geysers and — Mater's favorite — splashing through mudholes.

The second attraction will be geared towards smaller guests and will be fun for the whole family. Work on this new space in Frontierland will begin in early 2025.

"As we develop the next generation of Disney Experiences, we're always looking for new ways to tell the stories people love," D'Amaro said. "We're thrilling Cars fans by building on this incredibly successful franchise and creating the next chapter in this story."

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↩ replying to Disnutz311
This isn’t really feasible in Florida.
While I do not care for the idea of Cars in Frontierland, I could get around that if it were built truly Beyond Thunder Mountain and were not destroying the main basin of the river and it's riverboat... If the entire mess were moved out and beyond the ROA, the park would actually fully expand it's footprint. I have a lot of nostalgic feelings for Tom Sawyer's Island and spent a lot of time there as a kid... That said, I often wonder why it never expanded it's offerings like the Disneyland version with the tree house, Cascade Peak, the Pirates additions... It would have added more reason to go out there... and a draw bridge for the Riverboat would make the rafts unnecessary allowing easier access and maybe Aunt Polly's could be a real restaurant ...which would be lovely...
It does feel like access to beyond the Rivers of America gave them the excuse to get rid of Tom Sawyer's and the Rivers. Before the announcement of Cars, we were speculating how would they access the land as both Haunted Mansion and Big Thunder are built on the river's edge, so the Rivers were going to be altered no matter what.
↩ replying to wdwmagic
Noooo, I mean we all knew this was gonna happen but I still don't want it to.
↩ replying to splah
Definitely think they are changing the direction of the land. To me it is now more like Adventureland but for North America instead of South America/Africa/etc

So exploring a Louisiana Bayou, a Western Mining Town, a National Park via off road vehicle, etc - and fits with larger direction of putting the guest in the worlds Disney has created

The timing aspect (of a specific time of America's past) is definitely no longer applying.
↩ replying to wdwmagic
What's this? Delays in permitting? I am super surprised. ;)

Josh better tell the workers to stop moving the dirt.
↩ replying to Fido Chuckwagon
Remember, the majority of MK is the 2nd floor/level, so it probably could be done. Would they? Doubtful.
The issue I continue to have is scale. The whole area is about the size of the Speedway. That needs a big attraction, small attraction, queue, walkways and at least a shop.

The big attraction area is just not that large, even if it wraps around. It's about the size of BTMRR or 7DMT plus a bit of the walkways around it. Plus, this will need some type of 360-degree views. Carsland and Galaxy's Edge create scale on their mountains because they are one-sided and can use better forced perspective. Unless they are going to put a giant rock wall across from the current Frontierland buildings, this thing can't be all that big. I know it is just concept art. But, I just don't see how this looks anywhere near as impressive as what is being shown right now. I think taking a jeep trip around BTMRR or 7DMT is less compelling than something of bigger scale.

As always, I could be wrong - but I just don't see how this translates to the reality I fear a lot of people think will be happening.
↩ replying to Fido Chuckwagon
The Magic Kingdom is the second floor of that park . So they could go under the river if they wanted to despite the high water table in Florida. There have been massive sewer leaks in the MK in the last year. One occurred last Monday and shut down Frontierland. I believe this whole thing is designed to allow Disney to replace an aging sewer system. By the time this is built it will be just another fancy bathroom like repunzels tower area. If anyone remembers that was going to be a dark ride until the budget was cut.
↩ replying to Fido Chuckwagon
There are already multiple water bridges at Walt Disney World.

The Magic Kingdom is not built up on a podium. The utilidors do not extend under the entire park much less under the Rivers of America. Removing the Rivers of America isn’t going to provide access to sewer infrastructure.

The “Tangled Toilets” were never going to be a dark ride. It’s a small corner boxed in by The Haunted Mansion and “it’s a small world”.
↩ replying to Epcot82Guy
It’s really hard to figure out from the concept art, but the attraction area seems to extend a bit further than the loop people have traditionally drawn. The kid attraction is essentially up near Fort Langhorn from what I can tell. The envelop seems to be about 50% bigger than SDMT and Big Thunder. Which probably puts ride time wedged in between the two.
↩ replying to BrianLo
I guess it depends. On the aerial view they showed, this is all happening from the suspension bridge south. (Again, noting its concept art.) Curious where you are thinking this goes farther north? It looks to be between the riverboat launch and BTMRR - which is the bottom loop of the river. Are you seeing something different?
↩ replying to Epcot82Guy
I take it back, it does appear limited to that envelope. The ABCD alignment in this article helps sell that more so.

https://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/cars-land-magic-kingdom/news/12aug2024-disney-unveils-new-frontierland-concept-art,-rivers-of-america-and-tom-sawyer-island-replaced-with-cars-themed-land.htm

It is however still bigger than the other two mentioned attractions by 25-50%.
↩ replying to BrianLo
I also imagine it will mostly move slower than those coasters, lengthening ride time.